feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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bav
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feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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after some days of testing, a few remarks:

somehow the postprocessing settings are not working like they should:

1.) Following combination of processing options:
Category: None
Post Processing Option: (Default)

why do I have the option "(Default)" in the dropdown menu if I cannot set the default value anywhere?
the "Default post-processing" options i can set in the "Switches window" seem to be intended only for "Blackhole.nzbs"
where can i set the default value for nzbs that weren´d fed via the blackhole folder?
btw it wasn´t really obvious that the "Default post-processing" options are only used for the blackhole feature, I remember that there was a better description in some earlier version available?
i think it would help to point that out, directly in the Switches window or just to take that value and use it for ALL nzbs (blackhole or not)
except when overruled by the category setting (category bug see below)

2.) categories and processing options:
a) I can set the mode (e.g. +Delete) on the categories config page - but is that setting actually used anywhere?
If you select your category when doing the nzb upload, this setting is IMHO ignored completely
b) If I set (Default) as mode for a category - what is the default value? Where does it come from?

Summary: The new categories are very flexible, but you cannot set any default value although you can select (Default) at every dropdown box.

Please explain the logic of the default values to me, I really don't get it ???


and also some feedback for pair of dimes:
the plush interface is looking better/faster than with the old version (0.3.4>0.4.0RC2)
and the menu at the top is looking great and feeling rock solid, also when you right click its entries
BUT please make some kind of shortcut to the "Add NZB (Toggle)" menu entry, like a little button above or side by side to the current sabnzbd logo

Thanks for all the time you put into this project, + made sabnzbd better ;D

so far 0.4.0RC2 is working great, except for the additional clicks needed to do stuff, compared to 0.3.4
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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Priority for a an option of an NZB file:
1) An explicit value
2) The explicit value defined for the category of the NZB (if a category was determined)
3) The default set in Config->Switches

This is true for "Post-processing" and "Scripts".
There is no default "Category", so when an NZB has no category, only rule 1 and 3 are used.
The "Default" system also works for the RSS feeds (where you can set values on Feed-level and Filter-level).
For RSS feeds the default system works also for Category, in the sense that if the Filter has no category,
the Feed value will be used and as a last resort the Config->Switches value.

For "blackhole" files rule 1 cannot be used.

It may look a bit complex, but there's a solid logic behind it.

Of course you may have found bugs in the actual implementation, please report those.
except for the additional clicks needed to do stuff, compared to 0.3.4
What additional clicks? I think that's only true for the Plush skin. Feel free to use another one ;)
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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shypike wrote: It may look a bit complex, but there's a solid logic behind it.
Of course you may have found bugs in the actual implementation, please report those.
no, it's not complex for so. who can imagine what it should do to give max. functionality > idea is great, but:
shypike wrote: Priority for a an option of an NZB file:
1) An explicit value
2) The explicit value defined for the category of the NZB (if a category was determined)
3) The default set in Config->Switches
2) not working at my end, it always uses 1) - and 3) isn't working for non-blackhole files at my end edit: usind plush, sry to bother you shypike
shypike wrote: What additional clicks? I think that's only true for the Plush skin. Feel free to use another one ;)
I also have the 2ndary web interface set to the old Default, but there's no way to set D+ as default, so there's always +1 click, and I really like the plush skin, will never turn that down!
edit: wrong, b/c it actually works with the "default" skin
pair of dimes wrote: Actually I already made this menu exactly the way you are describing. Either update from subversion or wait till the next version of SAB and you shall see!
nice work, that was really quick :D I'll take the cvs, THX to both of you

edit: just found some more info for you: actually the "(Default)" bug described above for shypike only happens with plush! added nzbs always use (Skip) when they should use the correct default value like shypike described -  can you fix that? please
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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did you guys notice that "bav" edited his post and added some important information?

actually the "(Default-Category)" bug described above for shypike only happens with plush!
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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Because I added the determination of category from the group name, the Default system now also works for categories.
So now you see a "Default" category in the main page too, meaning "try to determine the category from the group".

I have to check Plush for the mentioned problem.
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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Plush problem confirmed. I'll notify its author.

Problem will be solved in RC3.
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Re: feedback for 0.4.0RC2 (categories,modes,plush,etc.)

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that´s great news, thx alot! ;)
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