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Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 12:01 pm
by WarlockWeary
INFO::[notifier:123] Sending notification: Warning - Probable account sharing (news-de.newsgroup.ninja) (type=warning, job_cat=None)
just started getting this wondering if anyone can help ?
I switched Internet providers a few weeks ago, from DSL to T-Mobile Home Internet Cell Service.
SAB .. Worked fine for a few DL's but not I am getting this error.
Now it try's but will not downloads at all !
After this happened with sabnzbd ..
I did try a different NZB Downloader .. NiouzeFire+ <- however has way less features.
And that seems to work .. mostly ( I get a few connections "Not Connecting" I am using 30 of my 50 allowed.
But it did download they NZB !
Help ?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 12:10 pm
by safihre
Your newssever is telling SABnzbd that it denied the connection because it detected connections from multiple ip addresses.
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 1:38 pm
by sander
T-Mobile Home Internet Cell Service.
A few days ago there was the same report "Probable account sharing ?" from a T-Mobile Home Internet user. EDIT: on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comment ... t_sharing/
TLDR: the ultimate solution is to use IPv6! So: SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status: do you see an IPv6 address?
Long:
Probable cause: your ISP uses CGNAT (Carrier Grade NAT), which means you don't have public IPv4 address for yourself. You share a public IPv4 address with others (not a problem), but ... you only get X ports. So far so good. But when you get above that number, you can can more ports ... on a differen public IPv4 address. And that is the problem: your usenet provider sees your logins from two different IP addresses. Not good.
You can view your public IPv4 address via SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status. Check it now and then to see if it changes/
You can probably see if you're behind CGNAT with
Windows:
tracert -d 1.1.1.1
Linux
mtr -nrc1 1.1.1.1
... and check the second hop: does it start with 100.x.y.z? If so, there is CGNAT
What can you do? Ask T-Mobile to give you more ports. Or not put you behind CGNAT
OH WAIT: the ultimate solution is to use IPv6! So: SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status: do you see an IPv6 address?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 3:12 pm
by WarlockWeary
sander wrote: ↑November 6th, 2022, 1:38 pm
T-Mobile Home Internet Cell Service.
A few days ago there was the same report "Probable account sharing ?" from a T-Mobile Home Internet user. EDIT: on reddit
TLDR: the ultimate solution is to use IPv6! So: SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status: do you see an IPv6 address?
Long:
Probable cause: your ISP uses CGNAT (Carrier Grade NAT), which means you don't have public IPv4 address for yourself. You share a public IPv4 address with others (not a problem), but ... you only get X ports. So far so good. But when you get above that number, you can can more ports ... on a differen public IPv4 address. And that is the problem: your usenet provider sees your logins from two different IP addresses. Not good.
You can view your public IPv4 address via SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status. Check it now and then to see if it changes/
You can probably see if you're behind CGNAT with
Windows:
tracert -d 1.1.1.1
Linux
mtr -nrc1 1.1.1.1
... and check the second hop: does it start with 100.x.y.z? If so, there is CGNAT
What can you do? Ask T-Mobile to give you more ports. Or not put you behind CGNAT
OH WAIT: the ultimate solution is to use IPv6! So: SABnzbd -> Wrench -> Status: do you see an IPv6 address?
Thanks For Helping !
I checked the : tracert -d 1.1.1.1 and get :
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.12.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.0.0.1
But I have a t-link router ...
SAB Says ..
Local IPv4 address 192.168.0.61
Public IPv4 address 172.58.85.999
IPv6 address None
Nameserver / DNS Lookup OK
But when you get above that number, you can can more ports ... on a differen public IPv4 address. And that is the problem: your usenet provider sees your logins from two different IP addresses. Not good.
Yes I think thats whats happing now .. just started was able to Dl a few days ago.
SUGGESTIONS ?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 3:18 pm
by sander
Your 3rd hop: 192.0.0.1
Let's look that up:
NetRange: 192.0.0.0 - 192.0.0.7
CIDR: 192.0.0.0/29
NetName: DS-LITE-RFC-6333-11-IANA-RESERVED
NetHandle: NET-192-0-0-0-2
Parent: SPECIAL-IPV4-REGISTRY-IANA-RESERVED (NET-192-0-0-0-1)
NetType: IANA Special Use
OriginAS:
Organization: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
RegDate: 2011-09-14
Updated: 2011-09-14
Comment: This block is used for DS-LITE, a technology for
Comment: sharing an single IPv4 address among multiple broadband
Comment: customers by combining IP in IP and Network Address Translation.
Comment: It was assigned by the IETF in the Standards Track document,
Comment: RFC 6333, which can be found at:
So: "This block is used for DS-LITE, a technology for sharing an single IPv4 address among multiple broadband customers by combining IP in IP and Network Address Translation. "
Exactly like I said.
But I have a t-link router ...
What is that? T-Mobile router? Or (your own) tp-link router?
Code: Select all
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.12.1
You have to RFC1918-addresses in a row. Did you connect your own router? If so, that might block IPv6.
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 5:17 pm
by WarlockWeary
What is that? T-Mobile router? Or (your own) tp-link router?
Code: Select all
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.12.1
You have to RFC1918-addresses in a row. Did you connect your own router? If so, that might block IPv6.
YES - I have a t-plink router !
YES - Did you connect your own router?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 6th, 2022, 10:13 pm
by sander
Can you connect your PC directly to the router/device provided by your ISP T-Mobile? And then recheck if you have IPv6?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 8th, 2022, 7:43 am
by sander
And ... ? Update?
Re: Probable account sharing ?
Posted: November 8th, 2022, 9:34 am
by WarlockWeary
sander wrote: ↑November 8th, 2022, 7:43 am
And ... ? Update?
Sorry .. Have not had time .. will try a laptop today .. the modem is on the second floor.
to get it to work ;( had to run a cat5 to my office on first floor.