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Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 29th, 2010, 4:42 pm
by dweller
So it looks like Newzbin lost their case. End of the road I guess.

Anyone know of replacements of the same quality?

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 29th, 2010, 6:28 pm
by inpheaux

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 29th, 2010, 7:23 pm
by weldon
This is pretty depressing, although It's still unclear how much newzbin will have to change to comply with the results of the case. It just integrated with sab so well  :'(

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 29th, 2010, 9:01 pm
by inpheaux
weldon wrote: This is pretty depressing, although It's still unclear how much newzbin will have to change to comply with the results of the case. It just integrated with sab so well  :'(
With nzbdstatus every indexer works just as well with SABnzbd as Newzbin.

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 1:10 am
by bnevets27
inpheaux wrote: With nzbdstatus every indexer works just as well with SABnzbd as Newzbin.
I'm going to have to completely disagree.  Newzbin only features:

When a nzb is grabbed the category is passed to sabnzbd
TV shows are automatically renamed
There is a link in the download history directly to the post (very helpful for many things)
Bookmarks...... Auto importing or them.

And one plus of newzbin is manually indexed nzb's.

I'm sure some of these things can be added in from other nzb indexing sites. Nzbmatrix now has bookmarks. And I'm sure the others could be added in. I think the main reason newzbin is so popular with many programs, including this one, is the API newzbin provided.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this...

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 1:18 am
by inpheaux
bnevets27 wrote: When a nzb is grabbed the category is passed to sabnzbd
TV shows are automatically renamed
There is a link in the download history directly to the post (very helpful for many things)
Bookmarks...... Auto importing or them.
Categories are being worked on in nzbdstatus, duz has an experimental UI for being able to pull categories from sites like NZBMatrix and nzbs.org. Once that's in you'll get sorting & renaming. History URL isn't that big of a deal. Bookmarks can be reimplemented like nzbs.org's nzb cart & rss feed, which is actually nicer than Newzbin bookmarks because it doesn't require us to write any code and to the end user it works exactly the same.

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 1:58 am
by dweller
bnevets27 wrote:
inpheaux wrote: With nzbdstatus every indexer works just as well with SABnzbd as Newzbin.
I'm going to have to completely disagree.  Newzbin only features:

When a nzb is grabbed the category is passed to sabnzbd
TV shows are automatically renamed
There is a link in the download history directly to the post (very helpful for many things)
Bookmarks...... Auto importing or them.
Yep that was my point exactly. Personally the categorization and auto renaming are the two things I care most about and both are newzbin only atm.

But good news that it's being worked on already. :)

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 2:01 am
by bnevets27
Thanks, inpheaux for the heads up. Looking forward to those features.  :)

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 3:28 pm
by weldon
Exciting to hear about all those features. I guess the main reason I liked Newzbin over Nzbmatrix was how much more professional it looked compared to Nzbmatrix. I set up a htpc back home for my parents and I know how confused they would be seeing Release Group names.

The editors (which is partially why they got sued) did a great job making the site seem professional.

And to ramble further, I do think the history of where the nzb was from is important, as it makes it easy to find pars, or read comments about a failed release/a release that might have a password rather then being SOL

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 5:55 pm
by Yarbles
I'm looking for alternatives to use with SabRage, but like Weldon said, none look to be quite on par with Newzbin, particularly because NB used TVRage-like titles instead of usenet post titles.

I'm also looking at switching to a MyTVNZB feed instead. Is that a reliable setup?

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 7:14 pm
by weldon
Yarbles wrote: I'm looking for alternatives to use with SabRage, but like Weldon said, none look to be quite on par with Newzbin, particularly because NB used TVRage-like titles instead of usenet post titles.

I'm also looking at switching to a MyTVNZB feed instead. Is that a reliable setup?
Im using mytvnzb, and it works pretty well. Sab seems to sort everything ok, and with checking every 15, eps still get downloaded before they air

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 30th, 2010, 8:21 pm
by c0ld
I found mytvnzb to be quite slow when I used them a year or so ago. I was using nzbs.org before newzbin. It was quick (very quick in fact) but you need a lot of reject filters. I've switched to matrix now for my rss, but it's amateurish compared to newzbin. Limited categories, useless search engine, no headers, horrible website... it's going to take some time to get used to.

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 31st, 2010, 12:07 am
by dweller
weldon wrote:
Yarbles wrote: I'm looking for alternatives to use with SabRage, but like Weldon said, none look to be quite on par with Newzbin, particularly because NB used TVRage-like titles instead of usenet post titles.

I'm also looking at switching to a MyTVNZB feed instead. Is that a reliable setup?
Im using mytvnzb, and it works pretty well. Sab seems to sort everything ok, and with checking every 15, eps still get downloaded before they air
Do you get categories and renaming of the downloads like the Newzbin-Sab integration allowed?

e.g. something like: \TV\Show Name\Season Num\Episode Title.avi ?


BTW newzbin is effectively dead now - they've had to stop allowing all TV and Movie reports already...

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 31st, 2010, 12:13 am
by weldon
yeah, you enable the regular sab sorting and then just make the rss feed just 'tv' episiodes. It's covered in a tutorial I wrote a little while ago for sabnzbd and xbmc if you're interested

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/129101/TUTORIAL.pdf

Re: Newzbin replacement?

Posted: March 31st, 2010, 12:17 am
by dweller
weldon wrote: yeah, you enable the regular sab sorting and then just make the rss feed just 'tv' episiodes. It's covered in a tutorial I wrote a little while ago for sabnzbd and xbmc if you're interested

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/129101/TUTORIAL.pdf
That's awesome - thanks a ton for this!!